Monday, June 18, 2007

Melbourne Shooting

Developing story in Melbourne this morning is how a man who was dragging a woman by the hair out of a cab then turned and shot her and two men who had come to her assistance.  One of the two men is now dead, the woman and the other man are critically wounded and the gunman is now on the run.

Why do these things happen?  What makes a person capable of doing such an act? Human nature is at times a cruel and fickle thing...

Then there is the other story of how a man crashed his car and killed his own children and then fled the scene!  The weird thing is the media found him at his house packing up all his possessions before the police did and then he was able to flee before the cops arrived... bizarre!

Really, makes you wonder doesn't it...

5 comments:

Daniel said...

I'm a few blocks away, but at least one blogger works in a building on the same intersection.

Obviously the details will become clearer, but some reports are implying all three victims knew the gunman, and that the incident originated in a nearby nightclub.

Anonymous said...

Someone's a big ass gangster eh G?

The real heros of our society mate. Shoot first and then run like cowards. Not surprising.

Anonymous said...

Clay how does your humanistic world view resolve this question you pose in this post? If God does not exist, why is there suffering in the world? Would be very interested to hear how you think this through.

Clay said...

Cat Balloo,

One of the best comments ever posted on this spec of the Intehweb that I call Lime Kettles...

I answer this firstly by saying that because doesn't (and never did) exist, then he is irrelevant to the issue.

Its like the Flying Spaghetti Monster... you could replace "God" with the Flying Spaghetti Monster and your question will sound silly...

So in reality, what you are saying is "if the indoctrinated figure of the omnipresent God" is not real, then why does suffering happen? You simply have exposed that the answer is that God doesnt exist and hence is not a part of the cause of the suffering.

So... what is the cause of the suffering? Well, that is what I put down to human nature. In early prehistoric man, men clubbed women and each other probably over trivial things. Caveman A wants Cavewoman B so he kills Caveman C.

Then our human society "evolved" to respect human life and to strive and minimise inflicting pain on others because deep down in our psyche we know that it hurts and that we would not want to die ourselves...

That is why wars happen. You can talk as much as you want at the Diplomatic table, but ultimately you know that the only real deterrent is death and suffering by declaring War. It is the ultimate step.

However, we strive for peace and despite the lack of success in the modern world, we are still a damn sight better off than the Cavemen of prehistoric times.

But "evolve" does not mean "eliminate" and the feelings of rage, anger, murderous violence and the like still exist as part of our DNA and psyche... we cannot and will probably never remove that as one of our base primitive reactions to issues. Its the "Fight Or Flight" theory at its worst.

Most of us are "evolved" enough to suppress these urges... others unfortunately are not. I think the gunman (Chris Hudson?) is a weak minded individual who uses primitive prehistoric urges in the modern world to get his wants (hence the association with bikie gangs* and guns) and ultimately his primitive mind in a modern body armed with a modern weapon caused the end result we saw earlier this week.

Sad, but we are not perfect and when the access to guns is intersected with a weak mind probably weakened by drugs and/or alcohol (he was leaving a night club at 8am) then this is the end result.

Not sure we can do anything about it, but to go back to the beginning, God is certainly not here to stop it...

Clay

PS - thanks for the comment, i enjoyed thinking about that.

* NOTE: I do acknowledge that not all bikies are violent drug dealers, but rather that the "stereotype" is attractive to the Chris Hudsons of the world...

Clay said...

As a post script... after reading my post back, I make the point that "Death is the ultimate deterrent" but this does not sit well with me because I am not an advocate for capital punishment as "a deterrent".

I do think the Death Penalty is warranted simply because a crime is so heinous that the person does not deserve to live anymore, but I do not think that the Death Penalty deters others from replicating the crimes...

Simply because the "human nature" I talk about will reappear time and time again because it will never "evolve away"...